Watery. I came from i7-4770. Combined with the 2080 it achieved very good frame rates. Then I “upgraded” first to the Ryzen 2700X and then to the 5900.
2700x: Marginal difference in gaming. Really peanut. Didn’t notice any difference. Worse here and there. No difference with Office, noticeable difference with complex PS filters.
5900: Good, measurable difference in gaming. There is no difference in the office. Big difference with complex PS filters.
Measurable. margin. By that I mean the jump from +- 60 fps on the i7 to +- 85-100 fps on the 5900. A huge difference that can be easily measured. Almost 100% better performance in some games. But in the game expertise There is no difference between “earth-shattering” and “amazing”. Especially at the time, when Freesync didn’t really exist and G-sync monitors weren’t affordable. (60Hz panel)
I think it means the same thing. If his FX setting runs at around 40fps… who cares.
Personally, I have something against the entire FX line, they are clumsy designs that try to compensate for the architecture’s design issues with too much force. They remind me of Intel’s P4 CPUs and AMD’s DX4s of the past. Loud and hot.
AM4–>AM5 is a step I will skip. I maxed out my AM4 setup with the 5800X3D and 64GB of RAM. Maybe I’ll put a 5080 in it, and maybe I’ll go back to the 5950 because there are more threads, but then I’ll be done with it over the next few years. The differences are really only measurable, not noticeable. I’m now at 1080p at 200+ fps on everything. What will I do next? 350 fps? I wouldn’t see or notice that difference at all.
PCIe4 still has bandwidth left, so I don’t see a need for GPUs either. (Even the difference between a PCIe3 and 4 slot is marginal in real-world tests, just look at the old 3080 reviews)
PCIe5 for NVME is great too, but nothing more. Reason: Access time doesn’t get faster, just throughput. And there’s also: Do you really notice a difference between a SATA SSD (850 EVO 4TB) and a PCIe4 NVME drive (980 pro 1TB? I could measure it, but noticed? Starcitizen starts up 3-5 seconds faster. whoohooo. Access time is the real constraint and PCIe4 vs. PCIe3 (XPG Spectrix S40G) is downright finicky To note. Maybe even impossible.
At 2K (or so-called Ultrawide), the setting also runs consistently at 75fps+ in the games I play. I don’t see a need for that either.
The only thing that might stop me from this plan is the potential future need for dedicated NP units. Things you can no longer use the GPU for. Then I’ll get my AM4 platform wet.