“It’s hard for me to comment on that, but I still think what happened there was completely unjustified,” says Gopher. He can’t say much about the situation because Jost has been sued. “All the attention is nice, but the quality of life for everyone involved has deteriorated. We have to be constantly careful about what we say and to whom. Even friends have become a danger. Our world has become very small.”

In addition, the governor finds it difficult to be asked about this problem everywhere he goes. He says that “eager reporters” ask the governor about it everywhere he goes. “I’m very eager for the point behind that sentence.”

Giuffre, formerly known as Stefano Keyser, finds it hard to let the situation affect him too much as a person. “I used to be a person who would talk without thinking. That’s no longer possible, and I find that very sad,” he says. “I have to watch my words constantly, and I don’t want to influence the handling of the lawsuit without asking for it.”